Writers of Pro Football Prospectus 2008

15 Jan 2018

Monday Morning Digest: Can Any of These No-Name QBs Take Down Tom Brady?

Three dramatic games and a Patriots beating: a divisional playoff round tradition.

Posted by: Mike Tanier on 15 Jan 2018

11 comments, Last at 18 Jan 2018, 10:38am by t.d.

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by CaffeineMan :: Mon, 01/15/2018 - 3:24pm

Tanner kills Tom Cable in this article. From my far away view, it seems like he did a good job without having much talent to work with. I'd be interested in opinions on Cable from those that watch the Seahawks more closely.

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by serutan :: Mon, 01/15/2018 - 11:40pm

From a coaching standpoint, I agree. It's not like he was given the Hogs,
and turned them into turnstiles. He certainly isn't the greatest human
being who ever lived, but it seems like Pete decided he needed scapegoats
for the team's offense this year...

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by Ten Drink Drunk :: Tue, 01/16/2018 - 1:16am

I'm a hawks fan and was generally impressed with what Cable was able to do with limited talent. It seemed the o-line would generally improve from abysmal to ok-ish over the course of a season. I think it was the 2015 season when Seattle played @ Cincinnati around week 5 or 6 and I assumed Wilson would get killed by what was a pretty good d-line in Cinci at the time. The line actually protected Wilson pretty well that week and continued to be not awful from what I remember.

I can speak for most of my Hawks fan friends that a change in the offensive coaching staff was a couple seasons overdue, but more Bevel than Cable. It just seemed that Bevel and Cable were a package deal for whatever reason. It's probably one part scapegoating and one part change for the sake of change. I'm personally not too excited about the prospect of a Brian Schottenheimer offense, but it was time to move on from Bevel.

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by jtr :: Tue, 01/16/2018 - 9:18am

I guess Cable's performance largely depends on how involved he was in the talent selection process. I think for most teams, the position coaches are heavily involved in the draft at their respective positions. If Cable was a major part of their power-forwards-and-defensive-ends draft strategy at O-line, then he hardly deserves much credit for turning terrible talent into merely really bad offensive lines.

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by Raiderfan :: Tue, 01/16/2018 - 9:41am

Very true. On the other hand, As a non-Seahawks follower, I kinda doubt he was the one deciding how much draft capital would be devoted to the O-line, or trading their best lineman to NO, or paying so much elsewhere that there was no money available to be competitive for free agents.

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by t.d. :: Thu, 01/18/2018 - 10:36am

...so they hired brian schottenheimer? this isn't going to be a story that ends well...

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by jackiel :: Wed, 01/17/2018 - 11:27am

Yeah, the Seahawks made a conscious effort to build an offensive line on the cheap and asked Cable to make the best of the situation. Under the circumstances, I believe that he did a pretty good job.

Seattle missed the playoffs this year because the defense regressed from elite to above average, not because the offense underperformed. On the Bevel move, I am a little conflicted. It's difficult to design an offense when the QB is likely to end up throwing from anywhere on the field and has trouble throwing from the pocket due to size. I don't believe that the Seahawks ever looked underprepared on offense. They were just outclassed when things weren't going well. I could say much worse about other offensive coordinators.

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by t.d. :: Thu, 01/18/2018 - 10:38am

and because the nfc was just brutal this year

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by JonFrum :: Wed, 01/17/2018 - 4:56pm

I guess the comments above tell us what FO readers think of this question. Seahawks talk is what you get when you ask a silly question.

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by Bright Blue Shorts :: Wed, 01/17/2018 - 5:04pm

I have to say that in watching those shitty Raiders teams from 2003 onwards, Cable was the one who actually managed to turn things around.

And that happened while being lumbered with JaMarcus Russell as his QB. Except he benched him and got better production out of the Bruce Gradkowski and Charlie Frye's of the league.

Not sure he'll ever get a HC chance again because of the multiple allegations of domestic abuse that surfaced against him.

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by JoeyHarringtonsPiano :: Thu, 01/18/2018 - 10:15am

Breaking the jaw of one of your assistant coaches also tends to be viewed dimly by prospective employers.