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21 Jan 2010

Cowboys Sign Wade Phillips To Extension

Our buddy Jason LaCanfora checks in to note that the Cowboys have given head coach Wade Phillips a contract extension through the 2012 season.

Posted by: Bill Barnwell on 21 Jan 2010

47 comments, Last at 25 Jan 2010, 11:39am by Temo

Comments

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by C (not verified) :: Thu, 01/21/2010 - 1:47pm

If Dallas lost to Philly in round 1 of the playoffs, would he be fired instead of resigned? Does 1 game matter that much?

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by DrewTS (not verified) :: Thu, 01/21/2010 - 2:04pm

It probably shouldn't matter that much, but from the sound of things, that appears to have been the case. I don't get it, but I'm not a Cowboys fan, so I don't care. I suppose they did make progress this year, even if their season still ended in an embarrassing beatdown, just like last year.

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by whatyousay :: Thu, 01/21/2010 - 2:05pm

well, that beatdown was also just 1 game. The larger sample size says they were good enough to win their division and host a playoff game.

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by Kevin from Philly :: Thu, 01/21/2010 - 4:04pm

Wade needs to send a nice gift to Jamaal Jackson for getting hurt and saving his job. No way Dallas wins both games against the Eagles if Nick Cole doesn't keep snapping the ball off his own buttcheek deep in Eagles territory.

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by JIPanick :: Thu, 01/21/2010 - 4:26pm

One center is worth three scores? Somehow I doubt that.

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by DrewTS (not verified) :: Thu, 01/21/2010 - 7:41pm

The Stilt was good for 10,000 scores.

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by Pat (filler) (not verified) :: Fri, 01/22/2010 - 3:25pm

Hell, a punter could be worth three scores if his replacement was bad enough. I'm not sure Cole was that bad but in the first game he's obviously responsible for at least one, so three isn't that far off the deep end.

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by DrewTS (not verified) :: Thu, 01/21/2010 - 4:22pm

That was kind of the point. Why does winning one playoff game decide if he's good enough to keep his job or not? There's a whole season of information to inform that decision, and yet the buzz was that he needed to win that game to keep his job.

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by Lance :: Thu, 01/21/2010 - 2:36pm

I don't think it mattered to Jones; my feeling from reading and listening to interviews is that Jones always wanted to bring Phillips back. But if Dallas didn't do well at the end of the season again, I think there would have been enough backlash that Jones would have had no choice but to let him go. But since Dallas ended up putting together a nice end-of-season run (their game against the Vikings aside), Jones had at least some justification to do what he wanted all along.

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by MatMan :: Thu, 01/21/2010 - 2:56pm

I think you're right. Jones wants weak coaches in Dallas, and he has another one in Phillips. Only an overwhelming wave of public scorn will get him to hire another Jimmy Johnson/Bill Parcells, and that guy won't last long.

Are there any lifelong Raiders fans out there who can tell me what it's like? I want to know what's coming.

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by C (not verified) :: Thu, 01/21/2010 - 5:08pm

Lance, I'll agree with that.

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by jklps :: Thu, 01/21/2010 - 2:52pm

As a Redskins fan this thrills me - no way Dallas wins a Super Bowl with the marshmellow man.

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by JoeHova :: Thu, 01/21/2010 - 3:06pm

Eh, a lot of people thought that about the Giants with Coughlin (but for the opposite reason, he was too much of a red-ass). Wasn't he supposed to be on the verge of being fired before they went on their Super Bowl run? I could see the same thing happening in Dallas.

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by jklps :: Thu, 01/21/2010 - 3:07pm

I think Phillips is the defensive twin of Norv Turner...so I'm fully okay with it.

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by MatMan :: Thu, 01/21/2010 - 3:08pm

Dang it, jklps, I just wrote lengthy manifesto in my post above about the Barry Switzer -> Chan Gailey -> Dave Campo -> Wade Phillips failure train guaranteeing zero trips to the Super Bowl, then deleted it for sounding too fatalistic. The last thing I want now is confirmation from a Redskins fan.

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by C (not verified) :: Thu, 01/21/2010 - 5:07pm

As much as I dislike the Cowboys, listening to the Redskins fans pour out of their holes and onto talk radio like cockroaches made me sick. Yeah! We suck but the Cowboys didn't win it all too! Did you see Dallas lose! Listening to this geek Scott Jackson on the radio talk about Dallas losing, or that Jason Campbell loving fool Doc Walker talk, or listen to them bash their Dallas friend.

Newsflash, the Redskins aren't winning a Super bowl with Byron lite Bubba Gump Leftwhich either so I don't know what you are cheering about.

Marshellow man Phillips might look jolly and stupid but his regular season records haven't been half bad and I'd take a guy like that instantly over a complete moron like Jim Zorn. Two years of Zornography will make your mind go numb.

I'm a Giants fan so I should hate the entire NFC East, but there is no more of a pathetic team to hate than the home town Deadskins. The Raiders of the east coast.

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by Joe T. :: Thu, 01/21/2010 - 6:00pm

I'm afraid the Washington-Dallas "rivalry" (or more accurately, outright hatred of one another) transcends any sort of understanding of rivalry you could possibly entertain as a Giant's fan.

It is more of a civil war than anything else, with a historically and geographically common fan base and loyalties often dividing families. With that in mind, its not so important that your faction win, but that the other faction lose, and lose embarrassingly.

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by C (not verified) :: Thu, 01/21/2010 - 10:32pm

Well I'm a Yankee fan too so I know all about that.

but the Redskins fans are pathetic. They came out like roaches and I wish somebody just stepped on all of them and pointed out how retarded their coach & QB were and how much damn money their foolish owner spent. I've been in the area, believe me, I understand the Dallas/Redskins rivalry, but it's hard to have a "rival" when you are possibly the worst NFC team of the decade to cheer for outside of Detroit. It's just funny to hear deadskins fans of all people complain about bad coaching with that revolving door they have going on.

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by jklps :: Fri, 01/22/2010 - 4:39pm

Thanks for generalizing every single Redskins fan by what you hear on the radio...some of us have rational thoughts too you know.

I'm the one who has gotten pissed off every time the Skins made a trade late in the preseason because they were "one player away". I don't like signing big name FAs - I wish the Skins would build through the draft, promote competition for starting spots and not have a guy who shouldn't be HC be HC. I don't know have enough money to buy the team so I have to watch the current pathetic product. I don't love Jason Campbell either.

But I'm still going to make fun of the Cowboys for keeping Phillips around - because I know in my heart the Cowboys will NEVER win a Super Bowl under him...that's the point of all this, right?

Also, I think Buffalo has got Raiders of the East locked up.

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by DFJinPgh (not verified) :: Thu, 01/21/2010 - 2:25pm

This is a thing of beauty. My hat's off to the artist, especially if it's you.

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by Lance :: Thu, 01/21/2010 - 2:38pm

NICE! (Though, I hope that this one time, it works out to be a positive for Dallas, and not another disaster)

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by Temo :: Thu, 01/21/2010 - 3:37pm

It's not me, it's a popular internet meme that's been going around for a while.

But it's an accurate description of my feelings at this time.

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by Kevin from Philly :: Thu, 01/21/2010 - 4:13pm

The CAPCHA is down! Commence attack on FO's main reactor!

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by Will Allen (not verified) :: Thu, 01/21/2010 - 3:24pm

Phillips is fine as a head coach who calls the defensive plays, when paired with a competent offensive coordinator, which Garrett is, and working for a franchise which has a well managed personnel department, which the Cowboys don't have. There are singns that Jerrel's son has had some success in reeling in Jerrel's worst instincts, but that is always going to be bit tenuous. Imagine what this franchise could have looked like if they had not screwed around with a cornerback infatuated with strippers, an insane wide receiver, and a so-so number 2 receiver who is convinced he is a number 1, and instead had set about acquiring better pass blockers.

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by vinyltoupee (not verified) :: Thu, 01/21/2010 - 5:14pm

Please, Will Allen, try to contain your purple spittle. Anecdotes are no way to characterize a team's personnel department, especially in a site like FO's. If you wish to identify Dallas' failures, you must also acknowledge their successes, which have been frequent in recent drafts and more significantly in the acquisition of UFAs. Jones deserves credit for these as much as he does blame for the Roy Williams fiascos.

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by Will Allen (not verified) :: Thu, 01/21/2010 - 6:23pm

I thought Pacman, T.O., and Roy Wliiams were real, live, football-playing (at least sometimes) human beings, not anecdotes. One fisaco can wipe out a lot of good moves, and, no, given the track record bewteen the departure of Jimmy Johnson, and the arrival of Bill Parcells, I wouldn't give ol' Jerrel credit for much of anything, unless it was for finally getting a vague clue that he didn't know what hell he was doing. The more he stays away from the personnel department, the better off the Cowboys will be.

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by David C (not verified) :: Sat, 01/23/2010 - 3:21pm

I don't consider TO or Pacman fiascos. TO was a hindrance in the second half of his last season with Dallas, but the receivers sucked outside of him at the time so Dallas wasn't losing much. They got Pacman by giving away their 5th round pick for a 5th round pick one year later. That's not a fiasco either. Roy Williams was a big mistake, but successes over the same period of time (since the TO signing) have included:
Miles Austin
Felix Jones
Tashard Choice
Martellus Bennet
Leonard Davis
Kyle Kosier
Doug Free
Mike Jenkins
Orlando Scandrick
David Buehler

All of the above are players acquired in 2006 or later who have worked out significantly better than most people anticipated they would. If I go back to 2005, I can add Marion Barber, Demarcus Ware, Jay Ratliff, and Marc Colombo to that list. The only major busts in that period have been Bobby Carpenter and Roy Williams. Anthony Spencer has been okay but not great. Their personnel department is one of the best in the league.

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by DW94 :: Thu, 01/21/2010 - 5:37pm

I'm not sure where Dallas' personnel department ranks in the league, but I think it's unfair to dismiss it as poorly managed.

As much love as I have for Bill Parcells, I think it should be said here that he is in large part responsible (e.g. 2004 draft, Marco Rivera) for the pass blocking problem.

The drafts post-Parcells have produced both above average starters (Anthony Spencer, Mike Jenkins, Doug Free probably next season) as well as backups (Felix Jones, Tashard Choice, nickelback Orlando Scandrick). The decisions made through free agency have shown promise (upgrading the DL with Olshansky at a much smaller price than re-signing Canty). Now, I imagine most of that credit goes to Stephen Jones, Tom Ciskwoski (director of pro and college scouting), and Jeff Ireland (who followed the Tuna to South Beach and is now their GM).

However, that also indicates to me that Jerry Jones has at least restrained the notion to act on his football brilliance in favor for people more, um, qualified. In addition to what I already stated, there was a story that Jerry wanted to trade up for James Hardy (who has been a wash out) in the '08 draft, but was denied authority.

So yeah, perhaps I rambled on a bit too much, but I thought it was worth sharing.

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by Will Allen (not verified) :: Thu, 01/21/2010 - 6:27pm

Well, to be more specific, I have no reason to think the Cowboys personnel department will be poorly managed if the owner of the team simply stays away from it. Seriously, anybody who saw film of Roy Williams, and then decided to trade the draft value that Jones gave up to get him, has no business being involved in evaluating talent.

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by Go Pats (not verified) :: Thu, 01/21/2010 - 3:41pm

I am SO HAPPY, as someone who hates the franchise and the owner I could not be happier. They will not win the big game as long as he is the coach. Great news!

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by TomC :: Thu, 01/21/2010 - 5:42pm

I'm confused. Do the Wade-haters actually think that a better coach would have resulted in a victory over Minnesota last week? That the final score was due to Wade's lack of toughness?

Game-day coaching (or at least head coaching) in the NFL is so utterly overrated. Especially with the tiny sample size of playoff games and Super Bowls. Did Coughlin and Dungy suddenly go from morons to geniuses (and, in Coughlin's case, back to a moron)? Are Marty and Norv missing some magical ingredient that would make great regular season Chargers teams equally great in the playoffs? And did Barry Switzer possess that ingredient?

I'm happy to hear specific criticisms of Phillips, but statements like "he's a marshmallow" or "he's the defensive equivalent of Norv" are just silly.

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by ibanez_ax (not verified) :: Thu, 01/21/2010 - 7:43pm

Well as an Eagles fan, I can tell you that game day coaching is NOT overrated.

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by MilkmanDanimal :: Thu, 01/21/2010 - 6:09pm

Wade Phillips, extension. Norv Turner, extension. Chan Gailey, new job.

Tonight we're gonna coach badly like it's 1999.

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by Raiderjoe :: Thu, 01/21/2010 - 6:12pm

this is what it sounds like when Wafe pjillips coaches
loss loss loss loss
loss loss loss loss

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by Brendan Scolari :: Thu, 01/21/2010 - 7:32pm

I wonder if so many Dallas haters would be happy about the extension if Wade Phillips instead looked like Jeff Fisher or Mike Singletary. It may seem silly to think a coach was being judged solely by the goofy look he tends to have on the sidelines, and I may have had my opinions confirmed by too many drunk guys at sports bars, but I cannot think of another rational reason for the lack of respect Phillips gets.

The Cowboys have the best regular season record in the NFC since Phillips was hired, how can he possibly be regarded as a failure? Is it the fact that they've "choked" in two (or perhaps three if you count this year) big games at the end of the year? If so, does anyone seriously think two games this is a big enough sample size to judge anything? Or worse yet completely disregard the success the 'Boys have had in the other 95% of the season? The '07 Giants game was a 4 point loss against the eventual Super Bowl Champs, is that really something to be ashamed of? Obviously the loss last year to the Eagles was far worse but hey, at least they completely reversed their fades-in-December trend this year.

I'd like to know how many coaches in the NFC we can say are definitely better than Wade Phillips. Here's my list:

Sean Payton
Mike Shanahan (and he's been clutch the last 10 years too..)

That's it. Sure, you could make a case for Andy Reid (how's his record in "big games"?), maybe Tom Coughlin, maybe a Mike McCarthy or a Ken Whisenhunt, but I'd have a hard time believing most of these guys are significantly better than ol' Wade. And after that we're looking at luminaries like John Fox, Lovie Smith, and Brad Childress, anyone feel terribly confident in them performing better than Phillips in Dallas? Maybe I'm missing something, but I fail to see how a coach who clearly seems at least average for his league, if not in the top 25% of coaches, can cause Dallas haters to celebrate when his contract is extended. Anyone care to explain?

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by The Original Omar :: Fri, 01/22/2010 - 12:37pm

When the Steelers stick with Cowher for 10+ years it's continuity but Jones should fire the coach averaging 11 wins per season? And that Landry dude only won 2 Super Bowls in over 25 years. And he lost 3! Loser...

I like Wade and though I want him to win because he caoches my team, I want him to win to watch the football lemmings have to eat their own words and (mostly) unfounded perceptions

And why is it that when we reference the 2007 season, the Cowboys "choked" against the Giants but the Giants "beat" the Patriots? It's gotten to the point that when someone tells me they hate the Cowboys, I'm 90% sure that I can never have a rational football conversation with them.

Talk radio and the internet have fostered the idea that you're not a good coach until you win a Super Bowl and that's just silly. Just like the idea that a Super Bowl title makes a great QB.

The passionate fan in me wants a title every year. The realist in me is happy when the Cowboys are competitive and entertaining. For my football viewing youth (late 70's thru mid 90's) I was almost constantly entertained and MOST of those years ended without titles.

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by Jerry :: Sat, 01/23/2010 - 7:39am

There were a lot of people complaining about how Cowher would "never win the big one" right up until he did. That includes plenty of people around Pittsburgh, and even some posters here.

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by Pat (filler) (not verified) :: Fri, 01/22/2010 - 4:00pm

Sure, you could make a case for Andy Reid (how's his record in "big games"?)

Pretty good, actually. If you make a case for the 'biggest' games - win or go home - it's 11-8 (counting the Cowboys-Eagles game in 2008 as a playoff game - the Eagles in previous playoff years never had their fate in doubt by game time in Week 17).

Playoff games have weird biases, though, because you never get a chance to pick up more than one loss/year. A better way to state it is to note that this is the first year that Reid hasn't won at least one playoff game in a playoff appearance. That is, in 7/8 playoff appearances, he's won a "big game" (88%). Among active coaches with at least 5 playoff appearances:

# of times won at least 1 playoff game/playoff appearances:
Andy Reid: 88% (7/8)
Bill Belichick: 88% (7/8)
Jeff Fisher: 50% (3/6)
Tom Coughlin: 50% (4/8)
Mike Shanahan: 42% (3/7)
Wade Phillips: 20% (1/5)

(Incidentally, that's the entire list of active coaches with 5 playoff appearances, I think - current head coaches are really young)

Note that I'm not saying the idea of "big game record" means anything - a head coach who pushes an average team to the playoffs and loses is still better than a coach who can't get that average team to the playoffs. But you've got to be careful about stuff like "record in big games" because every coach whose team makes the playoffs except one will lose at least one "big game" a year.

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by Arson55 :: Fri, 01/22/2010 - 2:39am

I'm possibly the only Cowboys fan who actually likes Wade Phillips. This defense is so much better with him than without him...at least ever since he stopped playing around and just became the defensive coordinator also. I think relatively few of the team's problems are his fault. Now if Stephen Jones can continue to help hold his dad back from the stupid decisions and Romo and Garrett can remember the lessons they learned this year, the Cowboys look pretty good going forward.

Oh, and the offensive coaches need to continue to get over their Marion Barber obsession. They've finally realized that Jones is better than he is, now they just need to realize that Choice is too.

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by The Original Omar :: Fri, 01/22/2010 - 12:41pm

I'm with you Arson.

Wade has given us the best 3 years of ball since we won SB XXX. Cowboy fans who wanna get rid of him should pull out some tapes of the Gailey/Campo eras and take stock. Just like the anti Romo crowd should remember Tony Banks, Chad Hutchinson and Ryan Leaf.

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by Key19 :: Fri, 01/22/2010 - 2:12pm

However, the opposing argument is that just because our recent history before Wade was horrible doesn't mean Wade's actually the guy (or Romo) who will get us a SB win. And that's all a lot of Dallas fans care about.

The common argument is "we have enough talent to win multiple SBs, yet we only have one playoff win in 3 years!" It's hard to reason with these people, but if you have unreal expectations of your team (like most Cowboys fans do), Wade and Romo quickly move from being "very good and a lot better than recent HCs/QBs" to "good enough to make the Playoffs and never do anything." People want a SB win NOW, and any year that doesn't result in one is a failure.

I hate these kinds of fans, and I am very happy with what we accomplished this season. People have been saying that the team was "one of the most talented in the league" since the end of the Parcells days, and what has that really meant? Nothing. If we were really as talented as they say, we'd be even more successful than we've been so far. I think we're overrated and yet underrated at the same time... People say we have all the talent in the world, yet they use it as a detractor from our team as a whole, saying that we obviously are flawed if we can't win with what we have. Anyways, I'm kind of rambling at this point, so I'll just stop. But I like Wade, and I like this team. I look forward to many more wins over our NFC East rivals. To the fans of those teams: You asked for Wade. Now you're gonna get him.

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by Yuri (not verified) :: Fri, 01/22/2010 - 4:27pm

As an Eagles fan, I see lots of similarity between Andy Reid and ol' Wade. Favoring Andy is the fact Wade had a mediocre prior history as HC, while Andy had no history, Also, Wade took over an above-average team and Andy a truly crappy one--but on the other hand Wade had little control over personnel and had a more meddling owner. I think these differences are a wash.

Each coach is clearly favoring one side of the ball, while a coordinator relatively independently runs another. Great early success, the goofy looks, for and the "inability to win the big one" seem to drive the discussion. I am firmly in the camp that consistent success is the most important factor here, and Wade and Andy deserved their extension fully.

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by Dice :: Fri, 01/22/2010 - 2:21pm

Nothing wrong with Wade as HC. Be happy to have a coach that can get you to the playoffs. Two outta three aint bad, to quote the poet. Also, regarding talent, been hearing about how talented the Bolts are for much longer than Dallas. Hasn't won them a championship either. Dallas is a lot like other teams: a few really talented players, some guys who get hype without being good or skating on past rep, just some guys, and Bobby Carpenter.

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by Temo :: Fri, 01/22/2010 - 2:31pm

and Bobby Carpenter

/puke

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by Dice :: Fri, 01/22/2010 - 4:14pm

I threw that in just for you and Key19, Temo. Knew you'd appreciate it.

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by Temo :: Mon, 01/25/2010 - 11:39am

Joe Thiesman. There, back in your face.

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